1/17/06
At last! A comment from a "lib" that doesn't simply consist of some obscenity. You ask several questions. I will try to answer as I can in this reply.
Prove to you that we should have gone to Iraq.
Well, that might be hard to do. It depends on what you consider proof. Did you consider the first Gulf war a good reason to go to Iraq the first time? If so, are you aware that the first war was ended on a cease-fire in which Hussein agreed to certain things, including the continuing inspection of his country? Are you aware of the Oil For Food foolishness that was preventing proper UN supervision? What about the attempt to kill George H W Bush? Did Hussein shoot at American and British Airplanes in the area HE agreed was no-fly zones?
What about The recent revelation by Stephen F. Hayes in The Weekly Standard that Iraq under Saddam Hussein had ties to – and was training thousands of – terrorists in the years prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Or, the 9/11 Commission Report that clearly stated, “[Osama] bin Laden himself met with a senior Iraqi intelligence officer in Khartoum in late 1994 or early 1995.”
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/550kmbzd.aspDid or didn't the US Congress vote to allow the war to take place? See:
http://hnn.us/articles/1282.html and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council_Resolution_1441Did or didn't almost all of the US Senators make statements that the Hussein regime was a threat to the US? Too many to document but check out press statements of Kerry, Clinton, et al at the time—not 2 years later.
Did of didn't George W Bush take the cause to the UN and didn't they unanimously approve the right of the US to enforce the original cease fire? See
http://www.psr.org/home.cfm?id=Post_Gulf_War_U_N__Securi for a list of resolutions relating to WMD.
As for the WMD's, there has been some WMD’s found but I will ignore that. Regardless of the existence of WMD’s or lack thereof, the intelligence services of the US, UK, France, Germany, Egypt, Israel and others all stated he did have them. If you are the leader of a country and you believe that your enemy has both the capability and the desire to inflict damage on you, you MUST take action to prevent that damage. What would you and the great liberal left have said if President Bush had NOT attacked and we found out Hussein did have the WMD's when he or some group he sold them to used them in New York? There would have been rightful HELL to pay. A leader has to react to capabilities and intent. Imminent threat implies something in the nature of a bomb on the way.
Why didn’t he use them? I do not presume to be able to read his deranged mind. He may have already moved them to Syria. He may never have had them and had no generals to tell him that. I don’t know. But then again he may just have been more insane then we know.
If you doubt the truth of my statements of the absurdity of saying I support the troops but not what they are doing, ask a soldier. They would prefer peace also but they are doing what they signed up for. In large numbers, they think they are making a difference in Iraq. They think they are giving a country that was held in bondage a chance to be free. Maybe not American democratic government but a reasonably modified democracy that will perhaps make a major difference in the Middle East.
I suppose my biggest ire is directed at the people that say they support the troops and then in the next sentence say something like: “…that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the – of – the historical customs, religious customs," John Kerry.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47765or perhaps Dick Durbin who: compared American behavior at Guantanamo Bay to the killing fields of Pol Pot, the Nazi concentration camps, and the Soviet Gulag.
http://durbin.senate.gov/gitmo.cfm In conclusion, I will say this again. You have the right to disagree with the war. You might even have an obligation to speak up about it if you do. No problems here. I simply object to the seemingly obligatory “but I support the troops” stuck at the end of any such protest. Don’t bother. They have seen the support many protestors give them.